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Burrfoot812 Nurgling
Joined: 19 Mar 2007 Posts: 227 Location: Barnegat
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:52 pm Post subject: Chaos news |
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I was reading the New White dwarf. When I came across this. "Unlike the Hordes of Chaos book, there is no integrated system for using allies," he states. "You can't substitue part of your Core allowance to get some Chaos Warriors instead. The book has one self-contained army list, as will all other army books going forward."
So there will only be mortal only and beastman only armies coming out soon.
That kinda sucks...hope they give some new troop types for both list. _________________ Armies I own
Over 7200 pts of Dwarves
3000 pts of Orcs and Goblins
2000 Dark elves. |
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Ir0nSide Nurgling
Joined: 07 Nov 2007 Posts: 144 Location: Bayville
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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I think it is better this way. Makes 3 unique armies. |
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Lord_of_End_Times Pestigorka
Joined: 15 Mar 2007 Posts: 507 Location: Russia
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 9:50 am Post subject: |
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I don't know man you don't play chaos so. But I have to say it will be interesting though. One Love
-Gorka _________________ Warhammer armies
10000+ - Chaos (Mortals/Daemons/Beast)
2400 - VC/\2400 - Dark Elves/\2000 - O&G
WARMACHINE/HORDES armies
Legion of Everblight-500+/\Khador-1500
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KidCthulhu Master Painter
Joined: 12 Mar 2007 Posts: 189 Location: New Jersey
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Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 8:23 pm Post subject: And now my two ducats. |
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Well, I just got the spearhead Sunday and have been looking over the new Daemon army book. Very very nice.
A full Daemon army can hold its own. I don't think they suffer from not having allies from the other two books. Personally, I don't like the idea of some powergamey player throwing in Chosen Khorne Knights into a blood crusher/fleshhound/bloodletter Daemon army for cheese factor. The army is fine all by itself.
However I am very against the idea of Mortal armies not being allowed to take Daemon auxilliaries in games under 5000+ points. The Demon army and the Beasts army are very balanced, complete armies that can get along without sharing from other Chaos armies. Mortals, on the other hand, need a little Daemonic or even Beastly help because of their few options. There's a reason Hordes Of Chaos includes Mortals and Daemons. Plus, Mortals and Daemons fighting side by side has been in Warhammer canon forever.
While I'm on my soapbox and have your attention, here's what -I- would do if I were to write the new Mortals/Hordes book.
Allow Mortal armies to take lesser Daemons (Plaguebearers, Daemonettes, Bloodletters, & Horrors) as Special .
Let Mortal armies take a Daemonic Special choice as a 0-1 selection that counts against the army's Special choices.
Let Mortals can take a 0-1 Daemonic Rare choice instead of the aforementioned Special choice. Naturally, this would use up one of the army's Rare choices.
This means a 1500 point Mortal army devoted to Tzeentch can take a unit of Horrors (counting as Special choice), and either ONE unit of Screamers (another Special unit) or a unit of Flamers (a Rare unit).
This way, the army is still mostly Mortal (and easily identified as such by just looking at the battlefield) but grants the flexibility of having a little Daemonic help.
I suppose similar rules could be easily thought up for Beasts, but I'll leave that to Gorka.
I started Fantasy 6 years ago by saying, "I won't make the same mistake I made in 40K. I'll only ever have one army for Fantasy." I thought Chaos would always be just one BIG army with lots of options. But as Burrfoot already pointed out, I went from owning 1 army to owning 3 armies overnight without having to buy a single miniature. _________________ "Brian the Painter, doodily doodily ding dong doodily doodily doo!" |
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Lord_of_End_Times Pestigorka
Joined: 15 Mar 2007 Posts: 507 Location: Russia
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Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 10:03 am Post subject: |
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I am waiting for the 10th of may for my book and I am waiting untill next months issue of WD for the mortal book untill the mortal book comes out. One Love
-Gorka _________________ Warhammer armies
10000+ - Chaos (Mortals/Daemons/Beast)
2400 - VC/\2400 - Dark Elves/\2000 - O&G
WARMACHINE/HORDES armies
Legion of Everblight-500+/\Khador-1500
Malifaux: Arcanists
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Ir0nSide Nurgling
Joined: 07 Nov 2007 Posts: 144 Location: Bayville
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Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 5:24 am Post subject: Re: And now my two ducats. |
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KidCthulhu wrote: |
Allow Mortal armies to take lesser Daemons (Plaguebearers, Daemonettes, Bloodletters, & Horrors) as Special .
Let Mortal armies take a Daemonic Special choice as a 0-1 selection that counts against the army's Special choices.
Let Mortals can take a 0-1 Daemonic Rare choice instead of the aforementioned Special choice. Naturally, this would use up one of the army's Rare choices.
This means a 1500 point Mortal army devoted to Tzeentch can take a unit of Horrors (counting as Special choice), and either ONE unit of Screamers (another Special unit) or a unit of Flamers (a Rare unit).
This way, the army is still mostly Mortal (and easily identified as such by just looking at the battlefield) but grants the flexibility of having a little Daemonic help.
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I concur. Let demons have "demon only armies" while allowing Mortal Chaos to take them as specials. |
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Lord_of_End_Times Pestigorka
Joined: 15 Mar 2007 Posts: 507 Location: Russia
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Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 8:56 am Post subject: |
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I like the idea also. It is true to the fluff if mortals or beast could summon minons of their gods. One Love
-Gorka _________________ Warhammer armies
10000+ - Chaos (Mortals/Daemons/Beast)
2400 - VC/\2400 - Dark Elves/\2000 - O&G
WARMACHINE/HORDES armies
Legion of Everblight-500+/\Khador-1500
Malifaux: Arcanists
EX-ILLIS! |
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